TV, ARD talk show Hart aber fair in Berlin

Oct 19, 2026

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Politicians: Roman Poseck, Minister of the Interior of Hesse (CDU), (left to right), and host Louis Klamroth appeared as guests on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair*, which focused on the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?
Politician Roman Poseck (CDU), Hesse’s Minister of the Interior, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss teachers, police officers, and the civil service. Why do we still need civil servants?
Politician Roman Poseck (CDU), Hesse’s Minister of the Interior, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss teachers, police officers, and the civil service. Why do we still need civil servants?
Politician Roman Poseck (CDU), Hesse’s Minister of the Interior, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss teachers, police officers, and the civil service. Why do we still need civil servants?
Former politician Rainer Brüderle (FDP), president of the Rhineland-Palatinate Taxpayers Association and former Federal Minister of Economics, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic of teachers, police officers, and the civil service: Why do we still need civil servants?
Former politician Rainer Brüderle (FDP), president of the Rhineland-Palatinate Taxpayers Association and former Federal Minister of Economics, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic of teachers, police officers, and the civil service: Why do we still need civil servants?
Journalist Jessy Wellmer, host of *Tagesthemen*, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?
Journalist Jessy Wellmer, host of *Tagesthemen*, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?
Journalist Jessy Wellmer, host of *Tagesthemen*, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?
Trade unionist Volker Geyer, national chairman of the German Civil Servants Federation (dbb), appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Civil Service: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?
Trade unionist Volker Geyer, national chairman of the German Civil Servants Federation (dbb), appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Civil Service: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?
Elisabeth van der Wal, a retired senior civil servant and former senior civil servant in Bremen, is calling for the abolition of civil servant status for large segments of the public sector. She appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair*, which focused on teachers, police officers, and the civil service, asking, Why do we still need civil servants?
Elisabeth van der Wal, a retired senior civil servant and former senior civil servant in Bremen, is calling for the abolition of civil servant status for large segments of the public sector. She appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair*, which focused on teachers, police officers, and the civil service, asking, Why do we still need civil servants?
Teacher Nicolas Schmelzer, a tenured teacher at a comprehensive school, known on TikTok as Mr. Schmelzer, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?
Teacher Nicolas Schmelzer, a tenured teacher at a comprehensive school, known on TikTok as Mr. Schmelzer, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?
Host Louis Klamroth (left to right), teacher Nicolas Schmelzer (Mr. Schmelzer), retiree Elisabeth van der Wal, union representative Volker Geyer, host Jessy Wellmer, politician Rainer Brüderle, and politician Roman Poseck appeared as guests on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair*, which focused on the topic of teachers, police officers, and civil servants—Why do we still need civil servants?
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Host Louis Klamroth. There are many of them, even by international standards, and their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whether Germany can still afford civil servants—or must—and in what contexts does the civil service still make sense. Cologne, Nort
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Host Louis Klamroth (right) with Roman Poseck, Minister of the Interior of Hesse (CDU). There are many of them, even by international standards, and their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whe
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Host Louis Klamroth. There are many of them, even by international standards, and their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whether Germany can still afford civil servants—or must continue to do so. In what contexts does the civil service still make sense
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Host Louis Klamroth. There are many of them, even by international standards, and their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whether Germany can still afford civil servants—or must continue to do so. In what contexts does the civil service still make sense
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Host Louis Klamroth. There are many of them, even by international standards, and their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whether Germany can still afford civil servants—or must continue to do so. In what contexts does the civil service still make sense
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Rainer Brüderle, President of the Rhineland-Palatinate Taxpayers’ Association and former Federal Minister of Economics (FDP).
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Jessy Wellmer. The Tagesthemen anchor presents the documentary Germany, It’s Time for Civil Service Reforms. There are many civil servants, even by international standards, and their privileges cost
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Jessy Wellmer. The Tagesthemen anchor presents the documentary Germany, It’s Time for Civil Service Reforms. There are many civil servants, even by international standards, and their privileges cost
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured is Volker Geyer, Federal Chairman of the German Civil Servants’ Association (dbb). There are many of them, even by international standards, and their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whether Germany can still a
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Elisabeth van der Wal. The retiree and former senior government official considers civil servant status unnecessary for large segments of the public sector
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Nicolas Schmelzer, a tenured teacher. He’s known on TikTok as Mr. Schmelzer. There are many of them, even by international standards. And their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whether
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Nicolas Schmelzer, a tenured teacher. He’s known on TikTok as Mr. Schmelzer. There are many of them, even by international standards. And their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whether
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Roman Poseck, Minister of the Interior of Hesse (CDU). There are many of them, even by international standards, and their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whether Germany can still afford civil servants—or must continue to do so.
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. From left to right: Elisabeth van der Wal, a retiree and former senior government official; Volker Geyer, federal chairman of the German C
Hart aber Fair aus Köln am 19. Oktober 2026. Von links nach rechts: Gastgeber Louis Klamroth, der verbeamtete Lehrer Nicolas Schmelzer, Elisabeth van der Wal, Pensionärin und ehemalige Regierungsdirektorin, der Bundesvorsitzende des Deutschen Beamtenbunds (dbb) Volker Geyer, die Journalistin Jessy Wellmer, Rainer Brüderle, Präsident des Bundes der Steuerzahler Rheinland-Pfalz, sowie der hessische Innenminister Roman Poseck (CDU). Sie sind viele auch im internationalen Vergleich. Und ihre Privilegien kosten die Bürger eine Menge Geld. Die Gäste von Louis Klamroth diskutierten darüber, ob sich Deutschland noch Beamte leisten kann oder muss. An welcher Stelle ist das Beamtentum noch sinnvoll? Köln Nordrhein-Westfalen Deutschland **
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. From left to right: host Louis Klamroth, civil servant teacher Nicolas Schmelzer, and Elisabeth van der Wal, a retiree and former senior government official. There are man
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. From left to right: Volker Geyer, Federal Chairman of the German Civil Servants’ Association (dbb), next to journalist Jessy Wellmer
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. From left to right: Volker Geyer, Federal Chairman of the German Civil Servants’ Association (dbb), next to journalist Jessy Wellmer
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Rainer Brüderle, president of the Rhineland-Palatinate Taxpayers Association and former Federal Minister of Economics (FDP), on the left with
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Host Louis Klamroth (left) with Nicolas Schmelzer, a tenured teacher. There are many of them, even by international standards, and their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whether Germany can still afford civil ser
Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. From left to right: Journalist Jessy Wellmer; Rainer Brüderle, president of the Rhineland-Palatinate Taxpayers’ Association; and Roman Poseck, Minister of t
Retiree Elisabeth van der Wal on the ARD talk show *Hart aber fair* at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx
Politician Roman Poseck (CDU) on the ARD talk show Hart aber fair at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx
Politician Rainer Brüderle of the FDP on the ARD talk show Hart aber fair at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx
Host Louis Klamroth on the ARD talk show *Hart aber fair* at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx
Host Jessy Wellmer on the ARD talk show *Hart aber fair* at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx
dbb President Volker Geyer on the ARD talk show Hart aber fair at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx
Teacher and content creator Nicolas Schmelzer; Mr. Schmelzer on the ARD talk show *Hart aber fair* at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx

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Politicians: Roman Poseck, Minister of the Interior of Hesse (CDU), (left to right), and host Louis Klamroth appeared as guests on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair*, which focused on the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Politician Roman Poseck (CDU), Hesse’s Minister of the Interior, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss teachers, police officers, and the civil service. Why do we still need civil servants?

Politician Roman Poseck (CDU), Hesse’s Minister of the Interior, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss teachers, police officers, and the civil service. Why do we still need civil servants?

Politician Roman Poseck (CDU), Hesse’s Minister of the Interior, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss teachers, police officers, and the civil service. Why do we still need civil servants?

Journalist Jessy Wellmer, host of *Tagesthemen*, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Journalist Jessy Wellmer, host of *Tagesthemen*, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Journalist Jessy Wellmer, host of *Tagesthemen*, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Trade unionist Volker Geyer, national chairman of the German Civil Servants Federation (dbb), appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Civil Service: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Trade unionist Volker Geyer, national chairman of the German Civil Servants Federation (dbb), appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Civil Service: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Teacher Nicolas Schmelzer, a tenured teacher at a comprehensive school, known on TikTok as Mr. Schmelzer, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Teacher Nicolas Schmelzer, a tenured teacher at a comprehensive school, known on TikTok as Mr. Schmelzer, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show *Hart aber Fair* to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Host Louis Klamroth (right) with Roman Poseck, Minister of the Interior of Hesse (CDU). There are many of them, even by international standards, and their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whe

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Rainer Brüderle, President of the Rhineland-Palatinate Taxpayers’ Association and former Federal Minister of Economics (FDP).

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Jessy Wellmer. The Tagesthemen anchor presents the documentary Germany, It’s Time for Civil Service Reforms. There are many civil servants, even by international standards, and their privileges cost

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Jessy Wellmer. The Tagesthemen anchor presents the documentary Germany, It’s Time for Civil Service Reforms. There are many civil servants, even by international standards, and their privileges cost

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Elisabeth van der Wal. The retiree and former senior government official considers civil servant status unnecessary for large segments of the public sector

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Nicolas Schmelzer, a tenured teacher. He’s known on TikTok as Mr. Schmelzer. There are many of them, even by international standards. And their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whether

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Nicolas Schmelzer, a tenured teacher. He’s known on TikTok as Mr. Schmelzer. There are many of them, even by international standards. And their privileges cost taxpayers a lot of money. Louis Klamroth’s guests discussed whether

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. From left to right: Elisabeth van der Wal, a retiree and former senior government official; Volker Geyer, federal chairman of the German C

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. From left to right: host Louis Klamroth, civil servant teacher Nicolas Schmelzer, and Elisabeth van der Wal, a retiree and former senior government official. There are man

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. From left to right: Volker Geyer, Federal Chairman of the German Civil Servants’ Association (dbb), next to journalist Jessy Wellmer

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. From left to right: Volker Geyer, Federal Chairman of the German Civil Servants’ Association (dbb), next to journalist Jessy Wellmer

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. Pictured: Rainer Brüderle, president of the Rhineland-Palatinate Taxpayers Association and former Federal Minister of Economics (FDP), on the left with

Hart aber Fair from Cologne on October 19, 2026. From left to right: Journalist Jessy Wellmer; Rainer Brüderle, president of the Rhineland-Palatinate Taxpayers’ Association; and Roman Poseck, Minister of t

Retiree Elisabeth van der Wal on the ARD talk show *Hart aber fair* at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx

Politician Roman Poseck (CDU) on the ARD talk show Hart aber fair at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx

Politician Rainer Brüderle of the FDP on the ARD talk show Hart aber fair at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx

Host Louis Klamroth on the ARD talk show *Hart aber fair* at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx

Host Jessy Wellmer on the ARD talk show *Hart aber fair* at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx

dbb President Volker Geyer on the ARD talk show Hart aber fair at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx

Teacher and content creator Nicolas Schmelzer; Mr. Schmelzer on the ARD talk show *Hart aber fair* at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx

Politicians: Roman Poseck, Minister of the Interior of Hesse (CDU), (left to right), and host Louis Klamroth appeared as guests on the ARD talk show Hart aber Fair, which focused on the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Politician Roman Poseck (CDU), Hesse’s Minister of the Interior, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show Hart aber Fair to discuss teachers, police officers, and the civil service. Why do we still need civil servants?

Politician Roman Poseck (CDU), Hesse’s Minister of the Interior, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show Hart aber Fair to discuss teachers, police officers, and the civil service. Why do we still need civil servants?

Politician Roman Poseck (CDU), Hesse’s Minister of the Interior, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show Hart aber Fair to discuss teachers, police officers, and the civil service. Why do we still need civil servants?

Journalist Jessy Wellmer, host of Tagesthemen, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show Hart aber Fair to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Journalist Jessy Wellmer, host of Tagesthemen, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show Hart aber Fair to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Journalist Jessy Wellmer, host of Tagesthemen, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show Hart aber Fair to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Trade unionist Volker Geyer, national chairman of the German Civil Servants Federation (dbb), appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show Hart aber Fair to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Civil Service: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Trade unionist Volker Geyer, national chairman of the German Civil Servants Federation (dbb), appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show Hart aber Fair to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Civil Service: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Teacher Nicolas Schmelzer, a tenured teacher at a comprehensive school, known on TikTok as Mr. Schmelzer, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show Hart aber Fair to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Teacher Nicolas Schmelzer, a tenured teacher at a comprehensive school, known on TikTok as Mr. Schmelzer, appeared as a guest on the ARD talk show Hart aber Fair to discuss the topic Teachers, Police Officers, and the Bureaucracy: Why Do We Still Need Civil Servants?

Retiree Elisabeth van der Wal on the ARD talk show Hart aber fair at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx

Host Louis Klamroth on the ARD talk show Hart aber fair at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx

Host Jessy Wellmer on the ARD talk show Hart aber fair at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx

Teacher and content creator Nicolas Schmelzer; Mr. Schmelzer on the ARD talk show Hart aber fair at the WDR Studios in Cologne, Cologne, October 19, 2026, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Copyright: xChristophxHardtx